Any evidence that there was definitely no consent? Or can she just not recall? In my eyes, what they did was wrong whether there was consent or not but I guess when we live in a society that heartily embraces drunkenness and fornication (and both at the same time, even better!) then are we really surprised when situations like this arise? I think the root of the problem lies way beneath blaming her or him. Should she have gotten into such a drunken mess, should he have had sex with her even when she was drunk? Both seem culpable. Her irresponsibility when drinking alcohol has consequences, she’s an adult, she should know this. No, that doesn’t mean she deserved to get raped, it simply means she should have seen the possible consequences. Of course, in the eyes of the law, and rightfully so, if she didn’t give consent then he is legally speaking a rapist, but there is a bigger picture than just what the law says. If she was in such a state that she couldn’t remember who she had sex with then does who she has sex with REALLY matter much to her?
Yes, Luke, it matters A LOT. If you think it doesn’t matter if the victim can’t remember, then you’re justifying rape of people in a coma, Alzheimers patients, and of course babies. Presumably you’d also be okay with a man raping you, as long as he had the courtesy to knock you out first?
Good news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17809268
Any evidence that there was definitely no consent? Or can she just not recall? In my eyes, what they did was wrong whether there was consent or not but I guess when we live in a society that heartily embraces drunkenness and fornication (and both at the same time, even better!) then are we really surprised when situations like this arise? I think the root of the problem lies way beneath blaming her or him. Should she have gotten into such a drunken mess, should he have had sex with her even when she was drunk? Both seem culpable. Her irresponsibility when drinking alcohol has consequences, she’s an adult, she should know this. No, that doesn’t mean she deserved to get raped, it simply means she should have seen the possible consequences. Of course, in the eyes of the law, and rightfully so, if she didn’t give consent then he is legally speaking a rapist, but there is a bigger picture than just what the law says. If she was in such a state that she couldn’t remember who she had sex with then does who she has sex with REALLY matter much to her?
Yes, Luke, it matters A LOT. If you think it doesn’t matter if the victim can’t remember, then you’re justifying rape of people in a coma, Alzheimers patients, and of course babies. Presumably you’d also be okay with a man raping you, as long as he had the courtesy to knock you out first?
Goodness me Luke, so when you’re comatose from drink it’s OK if I shag you up the ar$e because you can’t say no? What a stupid comment you made.
Luke, if you had to have surgery under general anaesthetic, would it be ok for the surgeon to anally penetrate you with a broom handle?
Dear Luke, I wrote something, just for you.
http://bit.ly/KoNFh7
Great work. Truly. Sadly, they won’t listen. They’re fundamentally ignorant.